Well someone had to be the first to say it. And a fair chance that no one is going to tell me off for saying so. Bliss!
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Interestingly enough, Joe, I have actually started to look at the Spoilers to see if it is going to ruin my life by NOT listeningā¦
C.xx/M.xx
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Would spoilers actually āspoilā the current Ta set-up? Now thereās a question. Hmm.
Glad to be on board and a big thanks to all those who have made this possible.
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Not a telling-off exactly, but isnāt that a bit Preciousssss?
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joe, how can you be so insensitive? Characters are people too and their pwecious feelings might be hurt. Ahem.
Actually one of my problems for the last few years has been that they arenāt people: they are puppets who are being too obviously jerked around in response to the demands of The Plot. In this long-running format the producers have the chance to do something really unusual, to have stories that carry on over years, but itās all ipssed away in favour of generic plots that could just as well have generic characters plugged into them.
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The thing about spoilers, Dracs, is that some people do hate them; having them in a place where nobody has to see them means that nobody who hates them can be afflicted with them by accident. They just have to not-go-there.
It looks much bigger than it actually is because there are so few sub-sets in the board as yet.
Can I say just how much I utterly loathe Ruth? If it was possible to loathe her even more after her conversation with Tom, I would.
Firstly, she tells him he will never get over Kirstyās miscarriage. Let me quote her exact words: āNo. You wonāt. Youāll feel better, but you wonāt ever forget or get over it completely. I can tell you that from experience.ā All with that dreadful delivery the actor treats us to. How does a person dare to tell another person that he will have the same reaction she did?
Secondly, I disliked her for turning the conversation to how the news of Kirstyās miscarriage affected her, Ruth. āAs soon as I heard what happened to Kirsty it all came back.ā What an utterly crass thing to say. Imagine if she said it to Kirsty, Kirsty would once more have to apologise to an Archer for miscarrying.
I knew when I saw the spoiler āRuth lends an earā that we were in for the ācaringā voice but it was far worse than I had imagined. As Ruthās wise words sent Tom off to Brazil, I can only imagine the writer intended this to show Ruth up in a good light.
Itās not just the poor acting, is it? I mean those were pretty ghastly words. I can tell you how it will be for you because of my experience. Actually, that sounds a bit familiar, doesnāt it?
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May I see whether as Admin I can work out how to move this and give it a thread of its own, JJ? It ought to be possible, and I think it deserves one. If I canāt,is there a chance that you would do it: copy and paste into a new thread, I mean?
I can see this board becoming a one-thread-per-topic place, and I think it needs lots of threads about different things.
And I canāt work it out, so if you felt able to start a new thread and vent a bit about Ruth, that would be triffic.
Hard to avoid when traffic is low, though we are doing our little bests in that regard. Yes, Janieās post definitely merits a thread of its own.
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OK, will do. I thought it fit in well with āI hates them allā but itās quite true that thereās plenty of hatred to go around so yes, by all means, letās have separate threads. 
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Bless you dearie for a laydieā¦ I am slightly preoccupied with the list of characters this afternoon, but Iāll have a good old think about threads to start ā so long as people wonāt think it off if I start too many.
Not at all! By the way, if you fire off too many threads too quickly, there is the equivalent of the āfleaā on the old BBC board. I donāt think itās for very long because it said I could try again in 0 seconds. So I did and it worked. That happened when I posted the two cast lists in quick succession.
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I do read spoilers occasionally, but oddly then find I forget them almost immediately. Maybe that is because they seek to engage by telling us in fact next to nothing important!
Hey, hoā¦the life of soaps, eh?
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But who do you hate most, joe? Or does it vary from day to day?
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As a character who matters? Peggy comes close, but JOE GRUNDY tops it for me.
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Joe is fairly average awful, but with luck he will drop off the perch soon.
Helen is close to the top of my list of loathings: if she has redeeming features, they whistle past my head like flying pigs. Kate too is bad; her habit of walking out and leaving others to look after her children for years on end is distressing, and a sort of magnification of Helenās day-to-day childuncare. Toby is the pits.
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What gets me about the whole ToeBee thing is that the ābeating heartā of Brokefailed canāt see what a scavenging, scheming tosser and parasite he is. I know farmers, and frankly cannot believe that ANY farmerās daughter, nay heir to the golden acres, could not accept that she has been conned.
The whole Brokefailed thing is on the edge of being used / ransacked / exploited by this creep as a new ābankā and Pip thinks of him only as āthe man her parents love to hateā , instead of the serious danger he is to family life and property.
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The really stupid thing is that she knows perfectly well what a useless tosser he is, and always has done; the only reason she is giving him board and lodging was to get her own back at Jill ā like a four-year-old sticking her tongue out at someone.
I do not credit this āheās good in bed so she canāt resist himā meme of the previous editorās: women on the whole are as capable as men are of telling the difference between love and lust.
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[quote=āFanta, post:20, topic:27, full:trueā]I do not credit this āheās good in bed so she canāt resist himā meme of the previous editorās: women on the whole are as capable as men are of telling the difference between love and lust.
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Thatās less common that one might hope, but everyone in Ambridge seems to have a glittery sparklingā¦ well.
(I canāt now find the original post but I think it was Jennifer Crusie the romance novelist who coined the term āglittery hoohahā to describe that short-cut where, once hero and heroine have slept together once, the hero is utterly committed to her forever after.)
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