# So, who wants to help ... to flummox the cellar? **URL:** \ **Category:** Not The Archers\ **Created:** [27 June 2021 12:02 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421 "2021-06-27T12:02:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 418
**Author:** ![ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/thatfunnymummy/32/8722_2.png) [@ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/ThatFunnyMummy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 19:35 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8353 "2022-05-01T19:35:06Z")
One for a Fishy, I think. I love Archibald Knox silverware but nearly missed this in a local auction because it is hardly photographed at its best… > **[Archibald Knox Cymric Silver blue and green enamel belt buckle, typical Art...](https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/46cd9030b104806f4696dc972d5e705e/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/fine-art-antiques-and-jewellery-followed-by-rare-vinyl-lot-8/)** > > Archibald Knox Cymric Silver blue and green enamel belt buckle, typical Art Nouveau design m... in Fine Art, Antiques... (30 Apr 22) by Murray's I just wondered if there was any (good) reason why it would be entered into a sale without being given a good clean first when it could have looked like these gorgeous examples… [https://www.google.com/search?q=Archibald+Knox+enamel+belt+buckle&rlz=1CAVHDQ\_enIM972&sxsrf=ALiCzsaSiFGt2NXAkBw5N\_oLH4W1ETCbgg:1651433437832&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipm7r7hL\_3AhVIT8AKHWnrDVkQ\_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=746&dpr=1.25](https://www.google.com/search?q=Archibald+Knox+enamel+belt+buckle&rlz=1CAVHDQ_enIM972&sxsrf=ALiCzsaSiFGt2NXAkBw5N_oLH4W1ETCbgg:1651433437832&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipm7r7hL_3AhVIT8AKHWnrDVkQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=746&dpr=1.25) ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:03 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8354 "2022-05-01T20:03:58Z")
Interesting hallmark… ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:25 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8355 "2022-05-01T20:25:24Z")
Looks like Glasgow 1928, but it doesn’t have the thistle. And the lion is all wrong for Scots sterling; it ought to be rampant. But if it’s Birmingham 1930, the F is wonky. ---
**Author:** ![soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/soobee/32/43_2.png) [@soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/soobee)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:30 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8356 "2022-05-01T20:30:29Z")
Are you saying it’s a mucky fake, Fishers? Soo xx ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:36 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8357 "2022-05-01T20:36:37Z")
No, just that I would like to see it cleaned up a bit so the hall was clear. At present it looks like the hall from two different offices in two different years. The city mark definitely looks like Glasgow’s fish-and-a-tree thing whose name I forget, but the sterling lion looks English rather than Scots. ---
**Author:** ![Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/carinthia/32/6542_2.png) [@Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Carinthia)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:36 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8358 "2022-05-01T20:36:38Z")
It’s very beautiful, & still fetched a good price. It would need a specialist to clean it because of the enamel. A wipe over with the Goddards won’t do it, & the sonic bath wouldn’t be great either… 😉 I do like buckles & brooches Carinthia.xx ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:39 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8359 "2022-05-01T20:39:49Z")
Sling it in dilute nitric for about four minutes, which won’t hurt the enamel, and then you polish it up by hand with Tripoli paste, jeweller’s rouge and elbow-grease. That’s how they’d have had to do it when it was being made. ---
**Author:** ![Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/carinthia/32/6542_2.png) [@Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Carinthia)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:46 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8360 "2022-05-01T20:46:21Z")
Of course, Fishy, but they would rather the buyer bore the cost & responsibility of that! Proffers Pitchers Carinthia.xx ---
**Author:** ![soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/soobee/32/43_2.png) [@soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/soobee)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:49 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8361 "2022-05-01T20:49:26Z")
> [@Carinthia](#): > > Proffers Pitchers Yes, please. Soo xx ---
**Author:** ![ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/thatfunnymummy/32/8722_2.png) [@ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/ThatFunnyMummy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:52 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8362 "2022-05-01T20:52:25Z")
> [@Fanta](#): > > At present it looks like the hall from two different offices in two different years. The city mark definitely looks like Glasgow’s fish-and-a-tree thing whose name I forget, but the sterling lion looks English rather than Scots. Interesting, thanks, I wouldn’t have a clue, I just love the designs. The auction listing has it down as marked Liberty & Co, Birmingham 1905, I’ve no idea how expert an opinion that is though - possibly not at all! ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:52 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8363 "2022-05-01T20:52:29Z")
You could use a fine lambswool polishing wheel on a Dremel, these days. ---
**Author:** ![Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/carinthia/32/6542_2.png) [@Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Carinthia)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:53 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8364 "2022-05-01T20:53:21Z")
How was Berwick, & the meal? What did you have? Puts feet up & waits… Carinthia.xx ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 20:55 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8365 "2022-05-01T20:55:23Z")
I withdraw; Birmingham 1905 it is. That anchor has been fair mucked abaht, though. L & Co was clear enough… ---
**Author:** ![ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/thatfunnymummy/32/8722_2.png) [@ThatFunnyMummy](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/ThatFunnyMummy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:00 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8366 "2022-05-01T21:00:46Z")
> [@Fanta](#): > > L & Co was clear enough… To you, maybe! I couldn’t make out anything under all that muck (and wouldn’t have known what it meant if I had been able to.) ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:05 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8367 "2022-05-01T21:05:57Z")
> [@ThatFunnyMummy](#): > > wouldn’t have known what it meant if I had been able to But you ain’t the Cellar silversmith, so no shame. I think it’s a hideous little artefact;- ) try holdin’ yer trousis up with Planck’s constant. ---
**Author:** ![soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/soobee/32/43_2.png) [@soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/soobee)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:06 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8368 "2022-05-01T21:06:31Z")
Berwick was fab, Carinthia. I enjoyed asparagus and polenta chips with (look away, Gusly One) a smoked egg yolk emulsion followed by a beef roast…in my defence I don’t eat a lot of meat, so I left half ovvit and swerved pud. Mr Bee ate everything in sight and hazz scoffed cornflakes, just now. Sigh. Soo xx ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:10 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8369 "2022-05-01T21:10:48Z")
> [@soobee](#): > > a smoked egg yolk emulsion Chances are I wouldn’t order it unless I had seen other people’s plates, but I see the _point_ of it, and can well believe all was fab. No Limpet-bag, though. [sad meepity] ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:11 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8370 "2022-05-01T21:11:12Z")
Well, maybe it was cheating because I knew he did most of his work (including Old Man Liberty’s tombstone design) for Liberty of London. ---
**Author:** ![HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/hedgesparrow/32/124_2.png) [@HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/HedgeSparrow)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:13 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8371 "2022-05-01T21:13:03Z")
> [@Gus](#): > > Planck’s constant This is a great reassurance to Mrs Planck. ---
**Author:** ![soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/soobee/32/43_2.png) [@soobee](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/soobee)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2022 21:37 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421/8372 "2022-05-01T21:37:23Z")
> [@Gus](#): > > Chances are I wouldn’t order it It was like a rich, smokey mayonnaise, Gus. But, better 😃 Bedtime forran bee. Good nights, Cellarites, Soo xx [Previous page](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421.md?page=417) [Next page](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-flummox-the-cellar/3421.md?page=419)