# So, who wants to help... to perpetuate the cellar?

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**Category:** Not The Archers\
**Created:** [12 January 2020 18:29 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502 "2020-01-12T18:29:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 09:43 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6149 "2020-05-28T09:43:54Z")

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> [@3Wells](#):
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> I would be wandering around gazing up all the time and stopping dead to watch every time I saw one

I don’t _quite_ do that, but I do frequently stop just to enjoy the ease with which they use the air.

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**Author:** ![3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/3wells/32/1521_2.png) [@3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/3Wells)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 09:56 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6150 "2020-05-28T09:56:58Z")

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I would love to see kites in flight

as long as they left my garden hare alone

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**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 10:06 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6151 "2020-05-28T10:06:14Z")

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I cannot see that they would be interested in your garden, unless your lawn is covered in small dead animals. They are carrion eaters, so if they do take live prey they don’t tend to eat it immediately – it’s an enzyme thing which I don’t understand, but they don’t digest fresh meat with ease, they need it to be a bit decayed.

As for the story of one snatching an apple from a toddler’s hand and damaging him, which I read recently, I cannot see why a kite would be interested in an apple, which it would not regard as food at all. A sandwich makes at least a little sense (though I would rather see a video of it happening than accept the word of someone on social media) – but an _apple_?

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**Author:** ![HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/hedgesparrow/32/124_2.png) [@HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/HedgeSparrow)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 10:11 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6152 "2020-05-28T10:11:35Z")

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If the toddler were particularly obese, it might be frightened to death, and would then soon become food.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 10:24 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6153 "2020-05-28T10:24:03Z")

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Y’know, I don’t think birds as a rule indulge in _long term forward planning_.

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**Author:** ![3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/3wells/32/1521_2.png) [@3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/3Wells)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 10:25 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6154 "2020-05-28T10:25:21Z")

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Thank you Fishy

I am just protective of my hare and not knowledgeable enough about big raptors or carrion feeders

As for social media nonsense I am with you on wanting proper evidence  
The

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**Author:** ![HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/hedgesparrow/32/124_2.png) [@HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/HedgeSparrow)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 10:48 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6155 "2020-05-28T10:48:45Z")

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> [@Fanta](#):
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> Y’know, I don’t think birds as a rule indulge in _long term forward planning_ .

That’s not wot the judge said. All about the conspiracy and premeditation, 'e was. As if digging a tunnel into a bank were more than the whim of a moment.

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**Author:** ![3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/3wells/32/1521_2.png) [@3Wells](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/3Wells)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:01 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6156 "2020-05-28T12:01:17Z")

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Dear wee birdie

Perhaps the judge thought you were yer bruvver

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:17 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6157 "2020-05-28T12:17:49Z")

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> [@Fanta](#):
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> Y’know, I don’t think birds as a rule indulge in _long term forward planning_ .

Actually, some do!

Crows collect food and hide it for later consumption. A potential problem is rivals seeing them and raiding the store, so some have been observed making several fake “decoy” caches first. These are generally in more “obvious” sites, and frequently made _when they know they are being watched_.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:25 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6158 "2020-05-28T12:25:36Z")

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Crows is Special.

They have reflections, too.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:28 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6159 "2020-05-28T12:28:06Z")

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Crows are pyromaniacs.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:30 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6160 "2020-05-28T12:30:45Z")

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All the best people are.

[https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2018/01/this-is-why-aussie-firehawk-raptors-are-spreading-bushfires/](https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2018/01/this-is-why-aussie-firehawk-raptors-are-spreading-bushfires/)

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:33 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6161 "2020-05-28T12:33:02Z")

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There’s a lot of things I like about crows. Of which perhaps the most important is that they are considerably smaller than us…

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:37 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6162 "2020-05-28T12:37:19Z")

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> [@Fanta](#):
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> one snatching an apple from a toddler’s hand

Ha! Don’t believe that one.  
But Himself was present at a braai where a yellow-billed kite snabbled a boerewors from a small boy’s plate. Kid had been so proud of carrying his own plate and was terrified by this bleedin’ gurt bird zooming down and nicking his sausage. Mr Kite retired to a nearby tree and consumed his prize.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:39 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6163 "2020-05-28T12:39:09Z")

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> [@joe](#):
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> they are considerably smaller than us

That is indeed a bit of luck.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:42 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6164 "2020-05-28T12:42:20Z")

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Of course, hiding food - even laying false trails - is one thing. They have to be able to _get_ the food, too…

[![](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/uploads/default/original/2X/7/733a07f474432b2a91ed2a75086dc47fa17c2ab3.jpeg "Are Crows the Ultimate Problem Solvers? | Inside the Animal Mind | BBC Earth") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbSu2PXOTOc)

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 12:46 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6165 "2020-05-28T12:46:38Z")

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> [@Gus](#):
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> a yellow-billed kite snabbled a boerewors from a small boy’s plate

The jackal and the kite  
Have a healthy appetite

(All right, they were _Haliastur_ as well as _Milvus_.)

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 14:09 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6166 "2020-05-28T14:09:06Z")

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I didn’t know that one. Putting stones into a deep beaker so they can drink when the water level rises enough, I have seen.

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**Post date:** [28 May 2020 15:16 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6167 "2020-05-28T15:16:40Z")

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Parrots are quite bright

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**Author:** ![Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/carinthia/32/6542_2.png) [@Carinthia](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Carinthia)\
**Post date:** [28 May 2020 17:31 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/so-who-wants-to-help-to-perpetuate-the-cellar/2502/6168 "2020-05-28T17:31:43Z")

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In colour too… 😉

I have had some Whitby Scampi today

Delicious

Carinthia.xx

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