# The beginning of the end… **URL:** \ **Category:** The Archers\ **Created:** [29 October 2017 19:28 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725 "2017-10-29T19:28:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/joe/32/126_2.png) [@joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/joe)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 19:28 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/1 "2017-10-29T19:28:42Z")
…for Idiot? Nice long stretch for attempted murder and drink driving. Scales fall from Lilian’s eyes. More of SOC’s egregious legacy expunged. We can but hope… ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 19:43 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/2 "2017-10-29T19:43:01Z")
I wish I felt it were safe to hope. But no, they will have done something _really_ stupid, I feel it in my water (it’s on the cold side here this evening, so it could just be that, I suppose). Maybe I am just thicker than the average listener or wasn’t paying proper attention, but an episode where it is pretty well impossible to work out what is supposed to have happened where in a radio soap (ok, joe, ‘continuing drama’ if that helps) really isn’t a terribly good episode. Maybe the scriptie who allegedly comes garlanded with television and playwriting laurels should eff off back to television or her plays, because for a collective endeavour on redio she is, imo, worse than useless. ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 19:51 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/3 "2017-10-29T19:51:42Z")
> [@Gus](#): > > Maybe the scriptie who allegedly comes garlanded with television and playwriting laurels should eff off back to television or her plays, because for a collective endeavour on redio she is, imo, worse than useless. OK, I beg wossname Ahmed’s pardon, tonight’s was Gillian Richmond, according to Janie’s very useful credits. Mind you, I still think Ahmed ought to eff off back to TV. Richmond just ought to eff off. I know nothing of her CV, but on tonight’s showiing it is due a very lengthy gap. ---
**Author:** ![joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/joe/32/126_2.png) [@joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/joe)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 20:04 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/4 "2017-10-29T20:04:43Z")
Ms Richmond comes highly recommended with a glowing CV, according to IMDB: > **[Gillian Richmond - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0725105/bio)** > > Gillian Richmond is a writer for television, stage and radio, who grew up on army bases around the world. The Last Waltz, her first major play, and ... Entirely objective and disinterested, I’m sure… ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 20:14 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/5 "2017-10-29T20:14:35Z")
‘a long association with EastEnders’ - ah\_ **Ha** \_! ---
**Author:** ![JustJanie](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/justjanie/32/42_2.png) [@JustJanie](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/JustJanie)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 20:14 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/6 "2017-10-29T20:14:36Z")
Yes, I looked up Gillian Richmond because I knew nothing about her and what you said about the previous week’s author could equally apply to Richmond, I mean both your criticisms and the impressive CV! Let’s count the clichés tonight: 1. Justin intercepts a phone call to Lilian. Matt blabs away even though there is dead silence at the other end. 2. Ian dobs in Lilian to Justin. 3. Matt is hoping to run away with Lilian so he gets so drunk even she would have second thoughts and they’d probably not let him on the plane anyway. Oh well, I enjoy a good car crash and punch up. I just don’t want to one with the good lines and well-developed character to be killed and the boring and badly-written Justin to survive. Let’s hope in any case that it was Adam who ran Matt over and he gets caught. ---
**Author:** ![joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/joe/32/126_2.png) [@joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/joe)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 20:19 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/7 "2017-10-29T20:19:34Z")
Just thought: was she the “core writer” who got sacked from TA for making a complete balls of continuity - and went on to blame everyone else and claim she was discriminated against? (Somehow I must have missed the Ineptitude Pride marches - possibly they’d planned a piss-up in a brewery?) ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [29 October 2017 21:26 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/8 "2017-10-29T21:26:59Z")
I think she was, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2017 19:29 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/9 "2017-10-31T19:29:57Z")
Is it just me? Everyone sounded odd tonight, and I mean their actual voices. The script was pretty poor, but I am fairly sure that _isn’t_ just me. ---
**Author:** ![HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/hedgesparrow/32/124_2.png) [@HedgeSparrow](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/HedgeSparrow)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2017 19:39 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/10 "2017-10-31T19:39:07Z")
Maybe they all have colds. ---
**Author:** ![joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/joe/32/126_2.png) [@joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/joe)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 00:35 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/11 "2017-11-01T00:35:44Z")
The SWs? The whole lot of them going down with bubonic plague wouldn’t excuse the heap of shite they served up tonight. Are they doing it for a bet, do you reckon? ---
**Author:** ![Armrest](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/armrest/32/171_2.png) [@Armrest](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Armrest)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 07:39 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/12 "2017-11-01T07:39:45Z")
How do you get invited to return after a. Getting booted for messing stuff up b. Then wildly blaming everyone but yourself ??? Anyway, I guess she’s won awards so we should feel privileged to have her. ---
**Author:** ![Armrest](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/armrest/32/171_2.png) [@Armrest](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Armrest)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 07:44 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/13 "2017-11-01T07:44:56Z")
[quote=“Gus, post:9, topic:725”]Is it just me? Everyone sounded odd tonight, and I mean their actual voices. [/quote]No. I missed the first 5m & switched on to hear a sound quality which was ‘different’. Not better or worse but different. Almost like they’d used a new digital techique. I also didn’t recognise Robert at all & Alice’s poshness had risen a notch. In fact she’s also developing the Pip drawl nicely too. ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 08:04 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/14 "2017-11-01T08:04:50Z")
> [@Armrest](#): > > switched on to hear a sound quality which was ‘different’. Not better or worse but different. Almost like they’d used a new digital techique Thank you, Armers: yes, that’s v much the sort of thing I experienced. And yes, I thought Robert did sound rather different from usual. Alice not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/fanta/32/98_2.png) [@Fanta](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Fanta)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 10:22 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/15 "2017-11-01T10:22:32Z")
Robert sounded _drunk_. ---
**Author:** ![joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/joe/32/126_2.png) [@joe](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/joe)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 10:29 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/16 "2017-11-01T10:29:07Z")
> [@Armrest](#): > > Almost like they’d used a new digital techique. Giving listeners the finger? ---
**Author:** ![Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/user_avatar/discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/gus/32/11_2.png) [@Gus](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/u/Gus)\ **Post date:** [1 November 2017 12:50 UTC](https://discussion.ambridgereporter.org.uk/t/the-beginning-of-the-end/725/17 "2017-11-01T12:50:46Z")
Ah, was that it? I have no experience of that sort of thing, you see…😇