Freddie, for inconveniencing his paternal aunt?
Or his maternal aunt for interfering?
And I would bet that the latter will claim that she did it for Widderbeth, who would of course have been distraught at the idea of Freddie being almost as far away as London.
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Pip.
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Why didnât he just ask Shula to start with?! Theyâve been spending time together at the stables, and she offered him a job. An entirely pointless episode sadly.
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Yes, Kara, I agree. Iâd have welcomed Camilla as a new Julia (to my regret I never heard those scenes). But theyâd have had to have made the character a lot more subtle. As it was, Camilla used up weeks and weeks of rudeness in one episode and wasnât even funny. It just left one thinking why didnât Elizabeth tell her to bog off a lot sooner. Or be a bit less helpful about tracking Freddie down. âSorry, no idea where he is. This is his phone number. You find him.â
I quite enjoyed the TripAdvisor comments, though! And letâs face it, Lizzie is not entirely blameless for the cock-ups at Lower Loxley. If she hadnât treated Geraldine so shockingly - and thatâs nothing to do with depression and all to do with Elizabeth - then I dare say the liquor license would have been restored by now and that seems to be the main problem.
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I have just heard the repeat, & itâs no better the second timeâŚ
Carinthia.xx
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If Elizabeth had bothered to ask about getting the licence back, or turned up to apply for it when she was supposed to instead of simply not bothering (which would certainly put the backs up of the people who were meant to be seeing her), she might well have got it back by now: she has taken the word of Kenton, who reported a solicitor to her as saying that they wouldnât get it back with Freddie living there, whereas what he reported to Lily was that the solicitor had said it would be more difficult to get it back.
If she canât manage to do it herself, she needs to ask someone reliable (ie under no curcumstances Kenton) to apply for the licence, at the very least; unless they tried to get it back, how would they know whether they could or could not?
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Lily will get the license back
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I think Iâll let her off that one. She was well into depression by that stage and paralysed by indecision. It can happen. But if she hadnât been so awful to Geraldine before she, Elizabeth, had deteriorated to the point of not being able to cope at all, then I dare say the good Geraldine might have successfully pushed for the renewal of the licence.
Now there Iâm with you. She has depression. That doesnât mean she can be excused for abandoning all common sense. And even supposing the solicitor was right (which doesnât sound likely) then what on earth was wrong with the solution of his moving back in with Shula? - which is what they have now arrived at. Lizzieâs desperate clinging onto Freddie is self-indulgent and not in either Freddieâs or Lower Loxleyâs interests. As usual it is all about Elizabeth, hence her going round telling everyone she has depression. As awful as Camilla was, she was at least the only person not to react as if Elizabeth has one more reason to be tip-toed around.
Itâs Helen and anorexia all over again. The malady is genuine, we have to accept that. The sufferer nevertheless seizes the opportunity to use it to her advantage. Lizzieâs a bit more subtle than Helen, but they both use their issues as weapons.
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Oh, spewk.
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One of the things one has to do is learn to say âhey, I canât do this right now any more than I could run a mile with a broken leg, someone else take overâ.
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Rather difficult with an ego like Lizzieâs. Note how she referred to herself as SuperMum (I forget to whom she said that) as well as having to be âfather and motherâ to Lily and Freddie.
Though now sheâs bitten the bullet and got help in the form of Glen, Russ, Lily, drugs and therapy, she can play the fragile role for all it is worth without having to do anything very much around Lower Loxley. And tell people she feels âguiltyâ about that so they can contradict her.
Incidentally, where does this new found love of Lower Loxley on Freddieâs part come from? We never heard much about that before. Though to be fair, I suppose Her Majestyâs Youth Offender digs put things in perspective.
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I guess he couldnât help but feel guilty if his family lost their home because of his stupidity. I think moving into the stables is an excellent decision, the only time he sounds like he knows what heâs doing is when heâs around the horses. But thatâs Elizabethâs fault, she brings out the whining child in him.
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Yes, insisting he stay at Lower Loxley and not telling Freddie the (possible) effect it would have on the license was Elizabeth being all about Elizabeth, loudly declaiming she didnât care if Lower Loxley went under as long as she could clutch her precious son to her bosom.
Quite sensible of Freddie to go to Auntie Shula where he can shovel manure and - heâs supposed to be a good rider - exercise the livery horses.
P.S. It would be largely Elizabethâs stupidity if the Lower Loxley business failed. If she had either been competent herself or not driven the competent manager away then I feel sure they could have overcome the licensing problem by now, nor would the Halloween fiasco have happened.
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It would equally be the fault of the trustees, who must surely be aware of the state of LoLoâs finances. (If they arenât, theyâre even more culpable.)
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Absolutely! They should have taken action six months ago at least.
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Yes I keep forgetting about the trustees.
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So do they, apparently.
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How often would they review the accounts?
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At the very least, annually; theyâd have to sign off on the accounts for each tax year.
Since the information is availableâKenton was able to get it, after allâthe trustees would surely have been informed of the parlous state of LoLoâs finances; itâs the sort of thing EGMs are designed for. At the very least, they should be appointing an interim manager while Elizabeth takes indefinite sick leave.
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What I donât understand is that they had a manager, Geraldine, and Elizabeth also worked. Now they have a manager, Glen, and Elizabeth - âI feel so guiltyâ - is not working yet no one has replaced her. It makes me wonder what it was that she did before, a bit like Helen taking maternity leave and no one noticing.
To be fair we did hear a fair amount of Elizabeth schmoozing the clients.
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