Grounds for divorce?

So JUstin reckons he’s going to divorce Miranda?
On what grounds would that be?
That she objects to his mistress?

What are they saying at Peets, please?

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c-b, if you want to look at the place, http://www.proxy4free.com/list/webproxy1.html has a list of sites you can go to, put http://www.paranormal.org.uk/mustardland/viewforum.php?f=1 into the place where it says “enter URL”, and see all without the moderators being able to see you. Just don’t try to reply to anyone!

I tend to look for sites which have 90 or more beside them.

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They’re not saying a whole lot of Peet’s - it’s very quiet! However, there is a thread entitled ‘Sick bag alert’.

People don’t really seem able to summon up a whole lot of interest in Lilian and Justin except to be a bit disappointed Justin is not going to leave. I certainly find them utterly dreary.

Just to add: yes, how will the divorce work? I suppose it depends on how cooperative Miranda is or whether Justin has any proof of the ski instructors with which he could threaten to embarrass her in which case she would agree to divorce him for adultery.

And who has the money? I was beginning to suspect Miranda was the rich one.

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The thing I am finding amusing (which I think has been mentioned on Peet’s) is that Jennifer is bubbling over with glee about it – how likely is that, given Jennifer’s experience of Brian’s infidelity? – and Lilian sounds decidedly lukewarm about the whole business.

Tee, as they say, hee.

Perhaps the reason for the non-likelihood of Justin having grounds for divorce is that it isn’t going to happen, like the camping holiday at the Cape in August, or the move to a farm with no milking-parlour.

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As usual, though, it was laid on with a trowel, both the writing and Lilian’s flat delivery. And it went on and on, Jennifer trilling, ‘Aren’t you pleased?’ and Lilian answering dully, ‘Oh. Yes. Of course. Very pleased.’

I must say I always enjoy Jennifer. She does it so well!

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There’s certainly a lot of high moralising, prurient, holier than thou going on.

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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with thinking a man’s wife who’s been dumped deserves a bit of sympathy rather than the mistress

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Particularly when we have known the mistress for several years and know what her motive was for destroying the marriage – and it wasn’t that she really wanted the husband.

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On the other hand, we haven’t known the wife for very long at all, but quite long enough to form the impression that she is a monumentally horrible cow with whom it is hard to have a shred of sympathy.

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I still have so little sympathy with this particular mistress that Miranda would have to be a multiple murderer for me not to feel she was more deserving, and even then I would want to know what the victims had done to her first before I passed judgement against her.

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Fair enough.
I do rather resent the prod team having turned Lilian into someone it is so easy to dislike. I used quite to like her.
Having known a Miranda or two, though, forget the divorce court: I would recommend boiling oil, or a high-velocity injection of lead, as the best way of dealing with.

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I wonder if TA has re-cast the Miranda actress as the new Caroline? (I read somewhere - RT? - that she was suggested as her replacement, by the late Sara Coward).

That would seem to explain the speed with which everything is taking place.

The Caroline character is potentially too good, to remain a silent or be killed-off.

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Miranda has been played by Lucy Fleming; she’s Simon Williams’ current wife and the daughter of Celia Johnson, so one can quite see why Sean O’Connor employed her, but the person Sara Coward suggested to take over as Caroline wasn’t Lucy Fleming. She suggested a real husband-and-wife team for Oliver and Caroline:

"I don’t know what they’re going to do with the character, but I do hope
they don’t write her out. I’d like them to find someone else to play
her. In fact I know the very person; Michael Cochrane’s [real-life] wife
Belinda Carroll would be perfect.”

According to Wikipedia, “Carroll was married first to actor Simon Williams, who also appeared in No Sex Please, We’re British. They had two children, Tam and Amy Williams, also actors, before divorcing in the late 1970s. She subsequently married actor Michael Cochrane.”

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Thanks for that correction. It just goes to show I really should have read the article properly, rather than just skimming through it. :slight_smile:

I really do think TA could benefit from believable (and at the risk of being both sexist and ageist), female professional characters, of an age.

For the most part, TA just has non-employed wives and widows in that age-group, or unbelievable types, like Usha and recently, Anna.

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And the repulsive Anisha. She is now being claimed to be thirty-five or so, which to me indicates that she has had time to learn better and has not done so.

(All you did was get the wrong wife-of-Simon-Williams.)

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Yes, I think Anisha’s age was just a guess on the part of Keri Davies, who said on Twitter, ‘early to mid thirties’ with a question mark at the end. We never solved the mystery of the 26, did we? I’m going back through some episodes looking for more data for my ‘It’s not your fault’ spreadsheet. If I come across any reference to Anisha’s age, I’ll let you know!

I do think they ought at least to have an idea of the character’s year of birth when they invent one. I can quite see they wouldn’t want everyone to have a birthday or the residents of Ambridge would wear out their shoe leather tramping around delivering cards.

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[quote=“JustJanie, post:16, topic:83, full:true”]I do think they ought at least to have an idea of the character’s year of birth when they invent one. I can quite see they wouldn’t want everyone to have a birthday or the residents of Ambridge would wear out their shoe leather tramping around delivering cards.
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Eh, why not assign the birthdays anyway? Then when you’re writing scripts you can look up the calendar and think “ah, this is going out over the 17th of February, I wonder if we should mention Pip’s birthday”.

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Good idea, they probably don’t have a calendar even for the ones they do have birthdays for. I seem to remember Tony’s … was it his 65th? … birthday passed without mention and it’s not the sort of thing they’d usually forget at Bridge Farm.

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Do you feel this is something which ought to go up on the Reporter Website with the nicknames and so on? I have most of the current characters’ birthdays if they have been given one at all, and plenty of previous characters’ as well.

That website is always going to be a work-in-progress, because I shall be adding events to the characters in the Who’s Who bit for as long as I am still listening to The Archers, I suspect.

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Yes, a birthday list would be a great good thing.

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